static L getList(Map map, O key) {
  ret map == null ? null : (L) map.get(key);
}

static L getList(L l, int idx) {
  ret (L) get(l, idx);
}

static L getList(O o, O key) {
  if (o instanceof Map) ret getList((Map) o, key);
  if (key instanceof S)
    ret (L) getOpt(o, (S) key);
  throw fail("Not a string key: " + getClassName(key));
}

static L mapMethodLike getList(S name, O o) {
  ret getList(o, name);
}